Stomping Stomp just creates another Stomp

There have been plenty of discussion lately about Stomp and how pathetically stupid Stomper are. In fact, I have blogged my fair share about Stomp, including titles like Stompers have magical eyes. I do admit, there are plenty of articles there that are totally stupid.

But what makes them stupid? Because they assume something, like the link above, that the couple in the water are having sex. But are they? Can we be sure? We can’t. Or photos criticizing someone’s way of dressing, which I thought, “What has it got to do with you?”. I remember one Stomper taking photos of a person wearing three quarters pants in Esplanade, and claiming that it’s the wrong way to dress in a “high class” event, but in reality, anyone can go there and people walk inside Esplanade in slippers too.

Lately, there has been a new website called AntiStomp. People have started to applaud it’s launch because its a website that talks about the stupidity of certain posts in Stomp. Whilst I was quite happy to read up on some posts, I was frankly put off by others. A thought came to me, “Who will guard the guards?”. In our haste to label Stomp as a lousy piece of citizen journalism, have we discovered that the makers of AntiStomp are also in a way, “citizen journalists”? And the best thing is, they are actually doing the same thing as what those Stompers are doing.

Take a look at this article. The Stomper claims that there was a near accident because the SSDC student had his left signal light on throughout, giving the impression that he wanted to turn, but in reality, he wanted to go straight. Instead of feeling sorry that the student made such a gross error, the instructor still gave hostile hand gestures. Is this a stupid Stomp? I don’t think so. It is perfectly easy to understand that the driver was upset and he is merely using Stomp as a means to complain about SSDC. In this matter, I think it is very clear who is wrong, that is, the student. It is totally wrong to say that students have been known to forget to turn off their signal lights, and pin the fault on the driver. Why should we criticize the driver here? The driver isn’t making any assumption.

And what about the article on the pervert stomper? This Stomper, a lady, is upset that the fish balls and the sausage was placed in a suggestive manner, that looks like a man’s crotch region. In my opinion, the photo really proves that the stall assistant is a gigantic jerk. There are so many ways to place two fish balls and a sausage and of all ways he chose that? It is obvious he is trying to be funny. But if you read Antistomp’s article, they are being funny and childish too. They said that the Stomper is probably trying to flirt with the stall owner, that she gave them the wrong impression blabla. Is this morally right? Is this the wrong kind of things to go on Stomp? I guess not.

With these two examples, it makes me wonder, are they making the same mistake? Antistomp, is actually not a platform to showcase the stupid posts made by Stompers. In actual fact, Antistomp is actually the biggest Stomper of all. Though they do not post on Stomp in itself, they are doing exactly the same thing that those Stupid Stompers are doing. They assume, and they lack certain feelings. They lack the feeling of compassion and neglect to think “perhaps the lady IS a victim”. Instead, they resort to assumptions saying she is seeking attention when the author is NOT present at the time of the sale.

Hence, who will guard the guards? Whilst some of us may applaud the emergence of this new website, let us think about it. Ultimately, journalism is something for professional journalists. A citizen journalism style blog fighting a citizen journalism Stomp is like the pot calling the kettle black. Unless there is some form of editorial integrity where they make sure that their posts are of some standards, they are just simply a copycat of Stomp? Down with Stomp? Down with those posts in AntiStomp first.

No offence meant, but I think that post was way offensive. Think about it. Who will guard the guards?

/*Some Updates*/
What is the purpose of Stomp then? I guess Stomp could be a place for discussion, of which most of the Stomps would become perfectly legitimate. Take for example the photo taken by a rather appalled driver seeing an SSDC car parking using real cars as guides. In reality, is there a need to blast the Stomper? We could just discuss it over Stomp and point things out to them. Or take for example the angry football fan who complained to Stomp. We could just tell them “It’s not Starhub’s fault”. There are so many sides to a certain thing, sometimes we should just be understanding towards certain Stompers.

5 thoughts on “Stomping Stomp just creates another Stomp

  1. @@@ And the best thing is, they are actually doing the same thing as what those Stompers are doing.

    I don’t think so. They are not going around to snoop everybody (like what stompers are doing) unless you are saying that pointing out stupid news you see on web in general is considered as “city journalism”. So are you involved in one yourself here having done this blog entry?

    @@@ But what makes them stupid? Because they assume something
    @@@ Is this a stupid Stomp? I donÒ€ℒt think so. It is perfectly easy to understand that the driver was upset and he is merely using Stomp as a means to complain about SSDC. In this matter, I think it is very clear who is wrong, that is, the student.

    This is also assumption. If the accident does occur, it is obvious who is in the wrong. Minor road gives way to major road. No assumption. No anything. As simple as that.

    @@@ In my opinion, the photo really proves that the stall assistant is a gigantic jerk. There are so many ways to place two fish balls and a sausage and of all ways he chose that?

    Your post makes me feel that you are this lady stomper.

    @@@ A citizen journalism style blog fighting a citizen journalism Stomp is like the pot calling the kettle black.

    Think about it, why is there no AntiStraitsTime, AntiNewPaper, AntiWobao, AntiToday, etc?

    @@@ There are so many sides to a certain thing, sometimes we should just be understanding towards certain Stompers.

    Why can’t the stompers be understanding towards the stomped victims?

  2. Hi myohmy, thanks for your long comment. However I am afraid that you missed my point. Let me first address the comment. πŸ™‚

    What I mean by doing the same things some stompers are doing, is like I don’t like stomp because some posts are totally stupid because they assume and distort facts. In fact, isn’t that what some posts in Antistomp has been doing? I’m sure they arn’t giving constructive comments in the pervert Stomper post.

    As for the SSDC car, the assumption we are talking about is different. What I mean by stupid stompers assuming is like “Hey I see two people inside the sea and they are close to each other” translates to “They are having sex”. That’s stupid assumption. In this SSDC case, can we say the same? Minor road give way to major road yes, BUT only when major road is going straight. Major road turning left? In the practical exam if you know the car is intending to turn left, and you still wait, you are considered road hogging. I just got my licence last year, my instructor told me that.

    As to my opinion makes you feel that I’m the lady stomper, I am sorry to say I wasn’t. But can anyone say the lady is wrong to Stomp it? She felt upset, and I think she is justified in feeling upset. No point flaming her.

    What I mean by citizen journalism style and everything is that we cannot expect that the standards of AntiStomp be superior to Stomp, because as ordinary citizens, AntiStomp would also make the same mistakes as Stompers would. Note that Straits Times, Newpaper, Wobao, Today etc are not citizen journalism. Perhaps The Online Citizen can be considered one, and I think they are a very professional citizen journalists.

    As to why the stompers can’t be understanding towards the stomped victims, I think you totally missed my point. I’m not defending Stompers. What I mean is that there are a few Stompers who genuinely wanted to raise something up, and not every Stomper is stupid. Hence, sometimes we need to be a little sympathetic towards non-stupid stompers. In such a context, do anyone want me to be sympathetic to the guy who placed the fish balls and sausages in that manner, or the lady who felt upset that he did so?

    The reason for this post is simply to say, whilst it is good that such an AntiStomp website comes out, we have to be careful because AntiStomp could very well become Stomp if they are not careful. And in the Pervert Balls and Sausages post, I believe they have become the Stompers they wish to Stomp upon. Simply put, unless they are mature enough and professional enough (attaining the standard that of The Online Citizen), they cannot expect people to take them too seriously. For some of the posts I feel have degraded them to Stomper’s level.

    But I must say, I do admit, most of Stomp’s posts are very stupid. And in fact, the flame wars there are childish. Stomp can become a very good place for debate, but it has become a childish flame site. AntiStomp can Stomp Stomp, but my wish for them is not to stoop to Stomp’s level.

  3. And oh, I have never intended to mean that pointing out stupid news is wrong, you have totally misunderstood my point. Cheers!

  4. @@@ In the practical exam if you know the car is intending to turn left, and you still wait, you are considered road hogging. I just got my licence last year, my instructor told me that.

    6pts for road hogging. Accident/nearly causing accident is immediate failure.

    Unless you are 101% sure that is car is going to turn, slowed down or has already started turning, there is a possibility that it will proceed straight or even switch off signal just before the turn. If the car is L plate, shouldn’t you be more careful and exercise more vigilance?

    What your instructor told you is based on ideal situation. He/tester is certainly going to react faster (e.g. e-brake) than you when unexpected things happen. If accident/near accident occurs during test, it will be immediate failure for you. No excuse, no anything even though that’s what you heard from instructor.

    I sure hope that you don’t carry the same mindset when you drive alone. By the time you realise what I’m talking about, it may be too late.

    @@@ What I mean by citizen journalism style and everything is that we cannot expect that the standards of AntiStomp be superior to Stomp

    @@@ In such a context, do anyone want me to be sympathetic to the guy who placed the fish balls and sausages in that manner, or the lady who felt upset that he did so?

    Do you prefer stomp to have one-sided report, siding the lady and putting all blame on the hawker? One-sided report…yes…that’s what the article is all about. I don’t see anything wrong of Antistomp reporting the “other side”.

    In such a context, both parties can be at fault. Simply put, the lady shouldn’t order 2 fish balls and 1 sausage, giving chance for the hawker to tease her (if that’s what she thinks). The hawker shouldn’t place the food this way be it deliberately or unintentionally. But if it’s unintentionally, then the hawker must be down on his luck to have met someone who made such a big fuss over this.

    @@@ Simply put, unless they are mature enough and professional enough (attaining the standard that of The Online Citizen), they cannot expect people to take them too seriously.

    I am not expecting anything from Antistomp but I certainly like what they wrote against these stompers. If stompers themselves are mature and professional enough, i think antistomp wouldn’t have existed too. Stomping on stompers with crap contributions is different from stomping on just anything (be it crap or important issue). For that, antistomp is certainly more quality than stomp editorial team/stompers who can contribute any crap.

    Lastly, I also don’t wish to see antistomp becoming like stomp. That’s crazy. πŸ˜€

  5. Hi myohmy, I’m glad you replied. πŸ™‚

    Hmm I understand what you mean by the driver has a part to play too. But that aside, rude gestures by instructors? What then?

    I think we got to recognize Stomp puts up whatever citizens send to them. Almost everything. Hence it’s not a report. Think about it like a forum. People put up forum threads daily, some bitchy, some ranting against unsatisfactory customer service. I think that would be the same here. To say that the lady should not order 2 fish balls and 1 sausage, giving chance blablabla is not right. It’s like saying you should not leave your valuables lying around for me to steal. The act of stealing is the wrong one, not leaving valuables around.

    Now, I cannot agree with you on this thought I agreed on the drive issue. In this case, what AntiStomp reported on “the other side” may not be what happened. It served as a means to degrade the woman, making the woman seem to be the culprit, though we do not know for sure. For better editorial integrity, isn’t it better to point out things that are more believable, like “The shop owner may not be intentionally doing this” instead of “You probably flirted with the owner”. That’s not “the other side”. That’s exactly what the worst Stompers are doing, assuming!

    Hmm I understand stomping on stompers with crap contributions is different from stomping on just anything. But what I am talking about is in a more, should I say, fixed and narrow selection of articles. Not talking about those that I think AntiStomp is doing an alright job in. But certainly, stomping on stompers with crap contributions, with their post standard to the point of crap, should not happen. Yet that is what happened in the fish ball/sausage saga. I cannot believe any mature adult would justify that as a good article. Sad to say, it sounds like a secondary student’s blog in that post.

    My wish for antiStomp is that, on their quest to root out those stupid and nonsensical Stomps that spoil the Stomping environment, they should be very clear that they should not become the fellow Stompers too. If they can do that, I will give them my fullest respect and support them. However at the current moment, looking at the standards of certain posts, I cannot give them my fullest respect and support yet.

    But this is a very interesting topic, and I always wonder, sans the crap contributions, then what is Stomp for? Haha. That, my friend, is something we got to ask, because our expectations may be what is making us feel that Stomp is a hell of a crap. πŸ˜€

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