Email arguing against Atheist’s stand

I received an email today and I thought that it is rather entertaining, but seriously flawed. Now, the arguments are to so called deny the Atheists’ argument and show that they are wrong, but seriously, I do not think this would be something Einstein would say. But do read it first if you have not read it before, it’s quoted below.

I quite follow the front parts. The fact is the question remains about if God loves us, why does he give people things like cancer and why did he create evil? As well as all the terrible things in the world? Then the argument goes that since we cannot see or feel God, Science tells us God doesn’t exist.

Then the student countered blablabla. One of the things he said is there is no such thing as cold nor darkness. Yet he contradicted by saying cold is the absence of heat. If the absence of heat or light causes cold or darkness, then cold and darkness is something we can very well feel in our daily lives.

The very problem is that we can explain Science, and we can do experiments and see how things go, how things work. But we can never do the same with God. It’s always about faith and believe.

Then the part about the Prof’s brain. I think it’s a weak argument. We cannot feel the brain, we cannot see the brain, but we can see it through developments in technology. However, can we see or feel God? We cannot. Even with developments in technology, we do not know where to look to find God. But we know inside our head there exists a brain.

And I disagree the faith keeps things alive and moving. Perhaps faith that a better day will come, blabla. But it doesn’t take faith in God to keep things alive and doing good. You do not have to belong to any religion to do good and be a useful person.

One very important thing I have heard recently, the best commandment anyone should learn. Thy should keep thy religion to thyself. Anyway, I have nothing against religion, just thought the argument sounds flawed.

A repeat of another version but still quite relevant for those doubtful atheists out there…….

A VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION

An Atheist Professor of Philosophy was speaking to his Class on the Problem Science has
with GOD, the ALMIGHTY. He asked one of his New Christian Students to stand and . . ..

Professor : You are a Christian, aren’t you, son ?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, you Believe in GOD ?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD Good ?
Student : Sure.
Professor : Is GOD ALL – POWERFUL ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : My Brother died of Cancer even though he Prayed to GOD to Heal him.
Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill.
But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

(Student was silent )

Professor : You can’t answer, can you ? Let’s start again, Young Fella.
Is GOD Good?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Is Satan good ?
Student : No.
Professor : Where does Satan come from ?
Student : >From . . . GOD . . .
Professor : That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this World?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Evil is everywhere, isn’t it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?
Student : Yes.
Professor : So who created evil ?

(Student did not answer)

Professor : Is there Sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness?
All these terrible things exist in the World, don’t they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, who Created them ?

(Student had no answer)

Professor : Science says you have 5 Senses you use to Identify and Observe the World around you.
Tell me, son . . . Have you ever Seen GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor : Tell us if you have ever Heard your GOD?
Student : No , sir.
Professor : Have you ever Felt your GOD, Tasted your GOD, Smelt your GOD?
Have you ever had any Sensory Perception of GOD for that matter?
Student : No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.
Professor : Yet you still Believe in HIM?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol,
Science says your GOD doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my Faith.
Professor : Yes, Faith. And that is the Problem Science has.

Student : Professor, is there such a thing as Heat?
Professor : Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as Cold?
Professor : Yes.
Student : No, sir. There isn’t.

(The Lecture Theatre became very quiet with this turn of events )

Student : Sir, you can have Lots of Heat, even More Heat, Superheat, Mega Heat, White Heat,
a Little Heat or No Heat.
But we don’t have anything called Cold.
We can hit 458 Degrees below Zero which is No Heat, but we can’t go any further after that.
There is no such thing as Cold.
Cold is only a Word we use to describe the Absence of Heat.
We cannot Measure Cold.
Heat is Energy.
Cold is Not the Opposite of Heat, sir, just the Absence of it.

(There was Pin-Drop Silence in the Lecture Theatre )

Student : What about Darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as Darkness?
Professor : Yes. What is Night if there isn’t Darkness?
Student : You’re wrong again, sir.
Darkness is the Absence of Something
You can have Low Light, Normal Light, Bright Light, Flashing Light . . .
But if you have No Light constantly, you have nothing and its called Darkness, isn’t it?
In reality, Darkness isn’t.
If it is, you would be able to make Darkness Darker, wouldn’t you?
Professor : So what is the point you are making, Young Man ?
Student : Sir, my point is your Philosophical Premise is flawed.
Professor : Flawed ? Can you explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on the Premise of Duality.
You argue there is Life and then there is Death, a Good GOD and a Bad GOD.
You are viewing the Concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure.
Sir, Science can’t even explain a Thought.
It uses Electricity and Magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.
To view Death as the Opposite of Life is to be ignorant of the fact that
Death cannot exist as a Substantive Thing.
Death is Not the Opposite of Life: just the Absence of it
Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your Students that they evolved from a Monkey?
Professor : If you are referring to the Natural Evolutionary Process, yes, of course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed Evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shook his head with a Smile, beginning to realize where the Argument was going )

Student : Since no one has ever observed the Process of Evolution at work and
Cannot even prove that this Process is an On-Going Endeavor,
Are you not teaching your Opinion, sir?
Are you not a Scientist but a Preacher?

(The Class was in Uproar )

Student : Is there anyone in the Class who has ever seen the Professor’s Brain?

(The Class broke out into Laughter )

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s Brain, Felt it, touched or Smelt it? . . .
No one appears to have done so.
So, according to the Established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol,
Science says that You have No Brain, sir.
With all due respect, sir, how do we then Trust your Lectures, sir?

(The Room was Silent. The Professor stared at the Student, his face unfathomable)

Professor : I guess you’ll have to take them on Faith, son.
Student : That is it sir . . . Exactly !
The Link between Man & GOD is FAITH.
That is all that Keeps Things Alive and Moving.

NB:
That student was Albert Einstein.

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7 thoughts on “Email arguing against Atheist’s stand

  1. I’ve seen this joke before and I don’t remember the final line being about Albert Einstein. If anything, Einstein is more of an atheist. There is no reliable source for him being a Christian although he did use the word ‘God’ in quotations.

    The point of the joke is simple. If you didn’t see it, it doesn’t mean it does not exist. Perhaps you just haven’t seen it.

  2. Hi KahWee, thanks for your comment. I would like to clarify that I quoted the entire email and I did say I do not think that it is written by Albert Einstein. Furthermore, I don’t think that I did link this to Christianity. I try not to talk about specific religions. By the way, a source informs me that Einstein is a devout Jew. I am not too sure about this since it’s a source after all.

    I like the first sentence of your 2nd paragraph. It is what I should have said actually. The whole thing is more of a joke, to entertain, than something for us to take seriously.

    In a more serious manner, the brain can always be seen even from ancient times. As long as you cut open the head, you can see a brain. God, well we can’t see him for an awful lot of time, and there are inconsistencies with what some say is God’s work, and Science later debunks it. A simple example would suffice. A particular group says the heavenly bodies are all part of God’s wonderful creation, and they are flawless. But yet Science has shown that the Sun isn’t flawless, and the Sun has Sunspots, like a pimple on a skin.

    @Commentor: Thanks for commenting. I would like to say I have never said the email is authentic and neither have I said it’s Einstein’s words. I merely wrote this to talk about my idea on it, not to lend it credibility. However I want to thank you for informing me that it has been debunked. Thank you very much!

  3. Einstein wrote in a letter that “For me the Jewish religion like all others is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions.” and “The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.”

    Einstein is unlikely to be a devout Jew.

    More information here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/may/13/peopleinscience.religion

    I’m not linking particularly to any religion too. I think believing that there is no religion requires a fair amount of faith too. 🙂

  4. Haha good that you found a source. Anyway for Einstein I care more for his physics than his religious viewpoints.

    The last sentence is quite interesting. Believing that there is no religion requires a fair amount of faith. I guess since believing in something requires faith, that sentence is true. Yet I find that believing in a religion requires greater faith than not to believe in one. An example would be why people only have at most one religion, because they do not have as much faith in other religion than their’s.

    Personally I’m a freethinker, not an Atheist. I can believe in the existence of a God, but I choose no specific ways to celebrate his existence.

  5. I’m a Christian though I can’t say I’m a devout. To be exact, I’m an agnostic theist, bias toward Christianity. I possess a certain degree of doubt as to which is the correct religion. I am, however, nearly certain the presence of a creator.

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